Dating Advice

Nice Guy Is The Horny Guy
with Daniel Packard, Dating Expert & Coach


Dear Daniel,

I’m a flirty girl and boys like me. So that’s not the problem. The problem is I want a guy that wants me for more than just sex. So how do I avoid those men.

Sincerely,

Guarded In Real Life


Well GIRL, I don’t want to even answer this question because it wouldn’t really help you. Even if I had a magic boy love/lust decoder ring, it wouldn’t help. It wouldn’t help get you what you want, a guy that is into you for more than sex.

Why doesn’t it help? Because the guy that wants to have sex with you and the guy that wants you for more than just sex….IT’S THE SAME GUY!!!

Women in relationships understand this. The guy who empties your puke bucket when you’re sick, is the same guy that lifts up your skirt when you are making chocolate chip cookies.

It’s the same guy. It’s me. I have never cheated on a women, I don’t lie to women, I like to talk about my feelings, I know to listen to you and not solve your problems.

Men, repeat after me “I can see how you’d feel that way.” And the even more advanced “I see no possible solution to your problem, but I support you in whatever decision you make.”

I’ll dance with you at weddings, I’m funny (Not sunglasses on a dog funny, but funny) and I l-o-v-e to cuddle. I’m THAT guy. I’m Oprah’s wet dream.

But on a first date, if you let me, I will nail...you...to...the...WALL!!! Gorilla style, you feel me? And that sentence either excited you or repelled you. And for those that didn’t like it, remember, say it with me now... “It’s The Same Guy.”

I’ll slap your ass, but then bring you Aloe Vera cuz I don’t want your booty red. I’ll pull your hair, but then put a little piece of your hair in my journal and write about how much I love you. At night we will do it like we’re on the Discovery Channel, but in the morning, guess who gets an omelet? The princess does.

And not a cheap omelet. Sun-dried tomatoes, feta cheese, whatever my mom has lying around the house is yours.

Say it with me girls “Horny Guy and Nice Guy... Same Guy.”

And you know it’s the same guy. But you forget it sometimes. The reason you forget it, is because it is easier to forget it. See, when a man does something that makes you uncomfortable, it’s safer to just make him bad and think things like “Oh my god he was just looking for sex.” or “God why do you guys just have one thing on their mind?” That way, you can vilify him, make him the culprit, and you can justify removing yourself from him. If you stopped and remembered what you really knew you’d have to go “Well the guy just did something that makes me uncomfortable, but I don’t really know his intentions, so I guess I’ll have to take a risk and see what happens.” That’s doesn’t feel very safe and in control.

And that is what this is all about. Control. You’re more in control if you can bounce the guy. Problem is when you bounce the guy, you are potentially bouncing the guy you wanted to be with.

It’s like jealousy. It gets you the opposite of what you wanted.

Of course there are men that just want to sleep with you. But, barring extreme cases, you will almost never know who they are. Men are incredibly horny, pent up, occasionally desperate sexual creatures. You put on some tight clothes and make-up and even the best men in the world will strike when blood is thrown in the shark tank. But it doesn’t mean that is ALL they want.

When you go to a restaurant and you are really hungry, and the waitress asks if you want an appetizer. You are really hungry so you say “Yes.” Well the waitress doesn’t say “Is that all you are looking for? Can’t you appreciate that food is more than curly fries and shrimp dip? Are you so shallow that you don’t want vegetables?” No. It just means in this moment, you are pretty hungry and something quick and satisfying would really hit the spot. So even though men can sometimes appear sexually preoccupied, it doesn’t mean that is who they are all the time. You won’t be dating him and say “Hey want to go watch a movie?” And he’ll say “Sorry, no movies, just sex.” “Hey want to hang out and laugh with me?” “Nope. I hate laughing. Just sex.”

I know women like control and like to “know.” But you limit yourself when you think you know something you can’t possible know. I hear women sometimes say “He just wants to sleep with me.” No matter what you see, you don’t really know what he wants. You know why you don’t know? Because WE don’t know. Here is basically what many men do, on some level. We think “Look! Something shiny and vanilla scented is paying attention to me. I’ll play with it until it tells me to go away.” Sometimes we have sex with it, sometimes we fall in love with it. We don’t know. And if we don’t know, you don’t know. Sucks, but kind of freeing when you think of it.

Get out of your head, and in the moment. Not only is it fun and you learn more, but being in the moment is when you are likely to make the connection that will actually get horny guy to want to be more than horny guy.

The way to get a man to not just want to sleep with you is that he feels a connection with you, he wants to be around. And that connection is formed over time. Time you may not have if you are busy assuming, judging and running.

I certainly understand that women need a sense of control, but you have to make calculated risks. Because even at its best you can’t avoid risk. Even when you have done everything “right” life is unpredictable. You can be a perfect driver, follow all the rules, and still somebody can run a red light and take you out.

But even though we can be hurt in a car crash, we still get in that car every day, because a fearful life is crippling.

Dating is full of calculated risks. Nobody ever died from a guy not calling you back, but loneliness kills.

Ultimately it’s a choice you’ll have to make GIRL. Do you want to be safe, or do you want to find love? How does the saying go... “You have to kiss a lot of frogs.” Well you’re probably going to do more than kiss, and they will probably be more attractive than frogs, but the key word in that sentence is “a lot.” Connection is rare, and you have to experience a lot, before you find it.

If you sleep with a guy and he doesn’t call you back, worst case scenario is, you still got laid. And take it from somebody that had sex once, that is not a bad worst case scenario.

Good Luck Dating Better!

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From daddysangel at 2:00AM on 2011-12-16
No offence to anyone but come on ladies saying all guys just want sex is kinda retarded, do you want all males to say all women are gold digging sluts cause some of the women out there only look for men with money or will sleep with anyone weather single or not. When we all clearly know its not true.
From daddysangel at 2:00AM on 2011-12-16
No offence to anyone but come on ladies saying all guys just want sex is kinda retarded, do you want all males to say all women are gold digging sluts cause some of the women out there only look for men with money or will sleep with anyone weather single or not. When we all clearly know its not true.
From sami21 at 1:00AM on 2011-08-07
I'm a nice guy and I never used a woman for any exterior or anything at all in my whole life!
There are horny guys who ACT nice, and there are nice guys who ARE horny, and there are nice guys who could care less about sex if the inwardly things, personality, and compatibilities were not there. They would wait until marriage or at least love, and they hope for CHILDREN, and ROMANCE, and most of all, the ALL IN ALL you can share with someone when you share your life with them.
To me, everything I mentioned on here up to the last of my own word means more than the parts mentioned about sex.

As a matter of fact, I want to spiritually, and mentally bond with "her"(future long term committed partner, spouse, or wife) better than I bond with some of my best friends in the world, next door neighbors, and even some family members, especially those relatives that I know do not give a darn about me from within, and just put on an ACT, on the outside. And if "everyone" thinks "I am a nice guy", well then I guess that "most of us" do not even know our own opinions and that "we just take guesses about ourselves". Thus, leads to "everyone" is a liar?? Or are there doubters this very moment giving you another challenge? hmmm*
From JonathonLS at 11:40AM on 2011-07-14
Hello,

Not to worry because there are men out here and we want to be with a woman's "spirit." My spirit has nothing to do with sex-only like all the creepy "guys" and "boys" who are too pathetic to see your spirit because they don't have any themselves; they don't have honor or decency. I wouldn't have waited all these years for my best friend if I was just another loser like them.
I hope you pass by the creeps who tell you they are (they'll want you to believe every guy is a creep like they are but they're really just showing you that *they* are a creep and they'll try to bring "men" down to their level because they're too cowardly to be men and so they want you to believe everyone is like them or that they are men.

Best,
Jon

~Peace, good health and safety to all
From sammie at 6:42PM on 2011-05-28
Here's the prob.

While your nice horny doofus is blinking at the shiny vanilla-scented thing and going for whatever ride it's willing to take him, Ms. Shiny Vanilla is actually paying attention to life and likely has some plans. Particularly if she wants or has kids.

So if NHD is making noises to the effect that he wants whatever SV wants, because that makes SV not throw him out, she may actually believe him. And oh boy, will she be pissed when it turns out that NHD really had no idea what he wanted but was happy to take free sex if that was on offer. Because in that case she didn't get laid; she got used.

Put another way: GIRL, sweetie, just don't put out so fast. If you want sex with a man, go get him. But otherwise, see if he loves you, first. See if he has it in him to be a friend. See how he treats you, how he talks about other people, including his exes and his family. As for the desperation -- yeah, guys are desperate all the time. Not your problem.
From THORNHILLSOUTH at 12:36AM on 2011-03-30
I have reread the article in its entirety (including the spelling and grammatical errors---shame on you!) and again, you have echoed what I have been saying for years. And as a writer, I have to say you probably put it in even better words than I have! I am so impressed I forwarded it and at least TWO friends have put it on their Facebook pages and liked it.
Possibly the most insightful, honest and effective dating advice in a looooonggg time!
Based on the feedback, I would say that the VAST majority of guys agree with you. (A little-known secret, girls: Guys are MORE likely to respect you if you sleep with them sooner! Shhhh!)
Since EVERY love relationship I have had got sexual the first date, and until a few years ago I thought it was luck or coincidence rather than understanding chemistry, it is such a relief to see some guys finally getting it, and some (not many) women understanding it. And that can ONLY lead to better and better dating. And THAT, folks, is a classic win-win!
From THORNHILLSOUTH at 11:32AM on 2011-03-29
Dan, I have been saying these things in my profile for years. I am extremely impressed with you and as a new DatingBetter member, if there is help available from experts like you (and if there are women out there who "get it", especially my three-date rule for sex---perhaps earlier, but wait NO LONGER), then I think this should be a helluiva ride! The question is, are there local girls or will most of my mail come from OUTSIDE Ontario (or even Canada)?
From cupid6969 at 8:14PM on 2011-02-15
very nice article man i am a nice guy and i get rejected all the time. i wish girls would learn to take a chance once in a while. live on the edge and give a guy a chance before you shut him down and assume his intentions are wicked and vile.
From Emma at 4:57PM on 2010-12-13
What a great article. It's better than all the crap that seems to be written by women. Simple and to the point.

"You still got laid." Great philosophy and so much better than "he's just not that into you".

From muddpuppy86 at 6:47PM on 2010-09-28
Hey ladies just say no if your not ready. Hey dudes no means not right now or not today. I for one will not have sex with any man until I feel that I might actually love him. I really enjoyed the article. It makes alot of sense.
From Cee Cee at 8:04AM on 2010-09-06
i personally thought this was an excellent article. It makes me want to let my guard down because i purposely aviod talking to guys sometimes due to my thoughts that all they want is sex. i love the part where you say the guy that makes his princess an omlette is the same guy that grabs her butt, or something like that. the point is we all want sex but there is always more to it unless a guy flat out says i only want sex.
From anicewoman at 3:08PM on 2010-04-04
thank you, I learned a lot from that. Very informative.
From anicewoman at 3:08PM on 2010-04-04
thank you, I learned a lot from that. Very informative.
From poss73 at 2:32PM on 2009-12-28
I thought was insightful and somewhat funny in a few parts.Yes,it is the same guy ladies.Do you really want a guy that is not attracted to you?You wouldn't have to worry about the SEX thing then would you?But then you loose those great things like passion and intimacy.I'm looking for a woman to love AND have passionate sex with.One night stands don't live up to the hype.I will not be with a woman that i'm not physically attracted to,but at the same time while we're having sex I want to feel a connection on more than just a physical aspect.Sent by poss73
From delphi at 11:06AM on 2009-12-20
I had to comment..What a bunch of nonsense.. Women go with your first gut feeling if it doesn't feel right, move on. This is not about CONTROL...it is for our safety. I've dated men that naturally wanted sex, and some of us women also like sex, but we both have manners and respect to not push it on a first date. But I agree with the person above, that is not the point of dating. It's about creating a relationship and Sex is much more gratifying when you know and trust and possibly love the other person. If you can't answer the question then don't.
From anonymous at 9:37PM on 2009-09-26
there are more then one type of guy out there and i resent u say that all guys are only into girls for sex there are many guys out there that like girls for who they are and not just want to do it with them
From Passerbyer at 9:29PM on 2009-09-26
I had a read and i thought I'd let you know that I myself wouldn't bump uglies with a lady on the first date, That's not the point of dating in my eyes. One can simply go to a club and pick up a girl for that. Dating is for finding one you truly connect with for a committed relationship. Anyhow hopefully you'll now see that there are different kinds of men indeed.
Kindest Regards, Merry Health and Much Luck to you.
Marvin Summers
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